Cross posted @ the Atheist Oasis
The apologists are always a-flurry: the Christians, the Judaists, they will condemn Islam wholesale while giving themselves a free pass. But this is not so. It is the self-proclaimed fiat of all religions that theirs should prevail, no matter what the cost. Because after all, the reward for the poisoned fruits of their labor is in the next life, not this one. So what cost bliss? Any cost, it seems.
The afterlife: it poisons everything in this life, for the sake of an imaginary one. If any of the hijackers believed that this life was the only one we all have, would they have given theirs so freely?
Remember, remember, the 11th of September.
Till the next post, then.
4 comments:
Hello this is Cornelius the guy that gave a philosophical lesson to one of your helpless atheists on the AABlog.
So what did you end up doing after that?
Well when you can't beat them BAN EM, (for the second time) come up with some BS story of how one is using a sockpuppet account, and therefore you are now justified to BAN someone.
This is dishonest, cowardly, and really makes the American Atheists look bad. Mrs. O'Hair and David Roland Waters are probably rolling around together in their graves.
Sorry, but I'm not buying it, and I want to ask you one question?
Does your beloved American Atheists only promote free-speech when it involves anyone that is NOT a Christian?
Anyways you might as well ban me on here too, because I'm truly confident that I will embarrass you in ANY debate on theism vs. Atheism, and you might want to get out of this now, before I make you look bad.
Just saying,
Now to address this blog, I have one question.
1. What makes 9-11 bad under atheism? I don't see how anything that happened is consistent with your moral complaints that seem to have 0 foundations under an atheist ethic...whatever that is?
So how can value come from valueless matter?
"The afterlife: it poisons everything in this life, for the sake of an imaginary one."
What poisons everyone is these quotes from *honest* Atheist Philosophers on how Life is ultimately "meaningless" anyways if there is no God. While the other atheists create the Delusions of Grandeur in their minds, so they can feel happy living out this purposeless life.
I bet you will enjoy the nihilist honest perspective.
Here are some Non-Theist who saw the absurd implications of non-theism
"Man is a useless passion. It is meaningless that we live and meaningless that we die.
- Colin Wilson
"Morality is herd instinct in the invidual"
"I describe what is coming, what can no longer come differently: the advent of nihilism."
- Fredrick Nietzche
"[Our] exhortations to moral virtue are not propositions at all, but ejaculations or commands which are designed to provoke the reader to action of a certain sort"
- A.J Ayer
"There is but only one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy."
"Hence the intelligence...tells me in its way that this world is absurd. Its contrary, blind reason, may well claim that all is clear...But despite so many pretentious centuries and over the heads of so many eloquent and persuasive men, I know that is false"
- Albert Camus
"The moral principles that govern our behavior are rooted in habit and custom, feeling and fashion."
- Paul Kurtz
"We have not been able to show that reason requires the moral point of view, or that all really rational persons, unhoodwinked by myth or ideology, need not be individual egoists or classical amoralists. Reason doesn't decide here. The picture I pointed out for you is not a pleasant one. Reflection on it depresses me...pure practical reason, even with good knowledge of the facts, will not take you to morality.
- Kai Nielson
"Being is without reason, without cause, and without necessity"
- Jean-Paul Sarte
"That man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; ...that all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the aspirations, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the temple of Man's acheivement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins- All these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain, that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul’s habitation henceforth be safely built."
"Unless you assume a God, the question of life's purpose is meaningless"
- Bertrand Russell
"If death is the unequivocal and permanent end of our existence, the question arises whether it is a bad thing to die"
- Thomas Nagel
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference
- Richard Dawkins
Listen "cornelius" - you had the same IP address as the other guy, so no, you weren't banned for your alleged 'mental powers'. You were banned for sock puppetry. Claiming that you were framed is just bad form (& raging narcissism).
So how does value come from deception?
I bet you will enjoy the nihilist honest perspective.
Oh Corny: your delusions of adequacy are just delightful! You miss everything by a country mile.
Of course there is no puppet master pulling our strings. That gives us the ability to make our own purpose.
Here are some Non-Theist who saw the absurd implications of non-theism
& they converted? Oh wait - no they didn't!
(I'd also advise you to look up the phrase 'nihilism', as you seem to be misusing it)
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