tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post116301527328777445..comments2023-07-08T06:13:19.344-07:00Comments on biblioblography: MIXED MEMES: OF PEDERASTY, PEDOPHILIA, AND PESTILENT MISPERCEPTIONSKrystalline Apostatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163453452220336192006-11-13T13:30:00.000-08:002006-11-13T13:30:00.000-08:00I can tell you from personal experience (I was som...<B>I can tell you from personal experience (I was somewhat promiscuous in my younger years) that people tend to wallow in pleasurable sensations.</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, but the urge to wallow can be overcome. I consume foods other than cheesecake on occasion and spend at least a few hours each day not having sex.<BR/><BR/><B> True enough, but TIO brought a point up recently, that people might be convinced it's 'bullet-proof' due to semantics.</B><BR/><BR/>“Safer” sex is fine with me as long as we also change it to “safer” driving techniques. Oh, and the insurance company Safe Auto should change its name to Safer Auto. (nods) Otherwise, people might thing seat belts are infallible.<BR/><BR/>I do see what your saying- but I think we need to balance the risks of everything we do against the benefits and I think sex is often targeted as being particularly dangerous when, in balance, many other things in life are much more dangerous. Yes, no sex will ever be completely safe and it’s important that we make that clear instead of just throwing condoms at teenagers. However, even the abstinence-till-marriage plan of the religious right isn’t foolproof. The only time I’ve ever been truly terrified that I might have caught some sort of sexually transmitted disease was after I found out my ex-husband had had an affair. (shrugs) In the end, everything was okay. Life is about minimizing risks where you can and dealing with the consequences of the risks you didn’t anticipate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163437182607512502006-11-13T08:59:00.000-08:002006-11-13T08:59:00.000-08:00spanders! Thanx for droppin' in.I couldn't bear th...spanders! Thanx for droppin' in.<BR/><B>I couldn't bear the thought of disappointing more than one woman at a time.</B><BR/>Well, I was young, & didn't know any better.<BR/>These days, I move very cautiously w/just <I>one</I> woman. Hehehehe.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163389147497310732006-11-12T19:39:00.000-08:002006-11-12T19:39:00.000-08:00"I had my 1st experience at 18. W/2 women, no less..."I had my 1st experience at 18. W/2 women, no less." I've said it before and I'll say it again... I couldn't bear the thought of disappointing more than one woman at a time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163296761702473102006-11-11T17:59:00.000-08:002006-11-11T17:59:00.000-08:00aviaa:(nods) This is why I think it’s important to...aviaa:<BR/><B>(nods) This is why I think it’s important to include “if-they-are-within-a-certain-range-of-each-other’s-age-they-won’t-be-in-legal-trouble” clauses to those age of consent laws… you still have my permission to frown all you want and can even increase your frowning as you continue to age.</B><BR/>I can tell you from personal experience (I was somewhat promiscuous in my younger years) that people tend to wallow in pleasurable sensations.<BR/><B>Oh, reaaalllly?</B><BR/>Scout's honor. Oh wait. They never let me into the scouts. No word of a lie.<BR/><B>I think safe sex practices go a long way towards helping people ensure that today. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s not so risky as many would like you believe when used reliably.</B><BR/>True enough, but TIO brought a point up recently, that people might be convinced it's 'bullet-proof' due to semantics. <BR/><B>Or her and her, in your case? ;P</B><BR/>In this case, it was #1, not #2. #2 fell in love w/ME. <BR/><BR/>remy:<BR/><B>I would dearly like to know what it is about the realization of sexual feeling that brings out the prude in all of us. </B><BR/>I'm not so much a prude, as over the years, I've learned the value of brashness: to wit, nothing.<BR/><B>Education is the only weapon against the theist's need to demonize sexual "congress".</B><BR/>Exactly.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163286688723218432006-11-11T15:11:00.000-08:002006-11-11T15:11:00.000-08:00I would dearly like to know what it is about the r...I would dearly like to know what it is about the realization of sexual feeling that brings out the prude in all of us. <BR/><BR/>We progress (if that's the correct word) from ignorance to icky to myopic lust to guilt in a relatively short time. Alas, it seems to me that many of us retain the iccky and the guilt beyond reason. Some, usually conservatively minded, people cannot accept that others engage in such sin.<BR/><BR/>It has taken me too many years to come to terms with these feelings. While I have't yet totally gotten over my youthful ickyguilt, I see sex for what it is, a human need, not dirty and certainly not sinful.<BR/><BR/>Education is the only weapon against the theist's need to demonize sexual "congress".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163284107643576772006-11-11T14:28:00.000-08:002006-11-11T14:28:00.000-08:00ka,Well, kids will be kids: it should be frowned u...ka,<BR/><B>Well, kids will be kids: it should be frowned upon, but not criminal.</B><BR/><BR/>(nods) This is why I think it’s important to include “if-they-are-within-a-certain-range-of-each-other’s-age-they-won’t-be-in-legal-trouble” clauses to those age of consent laws… you still have my permission to frown all you want and can even increase your frowning as you continue to age.<BR/><BR/><B>I had my 1st experience at 18. W/2 women, no less.</B><BR/><BR/>Oh, reaaalllly?<BR/><BR/><B>I look back at my earlier years, & count myself lucky I never caught anything.</B><BR/><BR/> I think safe sex practices go a long way towards helping people ensure that today. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s not so risky as many would like you believe when used reliably. <BR/><BR/><B>& that 1st time? Always memorable. & usually you fall in love w/her (or him?).</B><BR/><BR/>Or her and her, in your case? ;PAmandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176945053751665788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163256734682061532006-11-11T06:52:00.000-08:002006-11-11T06:52:00.000-08:00aviaa:However, I don’t know that classifying sex b...aviaa:<BR/><B>However, I don’t know that classifying sex between consenting minors as a criminal act necessarily addresses this mindset. </B><BR/>Well, kids will be kids: it should be frowned upon, but not criminal.<BR/><B>16? 18? Some other age? It varies from state to state. I’d suppose I’d encourage waiting…. but not criminalize not waiting.</B><BR/>Being an old-fashioned fart, I lean towards making it older as I grow older (which ain't fair, I know, I know).<BR/>Some Asian countries count a person as an adult at the ripe old age of 25.<BR/><BR/>I had my 1st experience at 18. W/2 women, no less.<BR/><BR/>I look back at my earlier years, & count myself lucky I never caught anything. <BR/><BR/>& that 1st time? Always memorable. & usually you fall in love w/her (or him?).Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163221257222866572006-11-10T21:00:00.000-08:002006-11-10T21:00:00.000-08:00ka,The pubescent years are chaotic enough. It seem...ka,<BR/><BR/><B>The pubescent years are chaotic enough. It seems there's a big push to get laid at an early age (we see it in movies, TV: 'virgin=loser'). & peer pressure is ridiculous. </B><BR/><BR/>Agreed. However, I don’t know that classifying sex between consenting minors as a criminal act necessarily addresses this mindset. <BR/><BR/><BR/><B>I'm very much in favor of age of consent, &</B> <BR/><BR/>16? 18? Some other age? It varies from state to state. I’d suppose I’d encourage waiting…. but not criminalize not waiting.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>not crazy about a hedonistic approach.</B><BR/><BR/>Sure. However, I suppose I don’t see much of an issue between two high school students within a relationship experimenting sexually. It would be lovely if they waited until (blank) certain age, but I’m not sure it’s realistic. I’m in favor of encouraging waiting and various alternative sorts of sexual experimentation rather than jumping into full-fledged intercourse…. but goodness, I was one of the “good” kids, didn’t feel overly pressured by anyone, and still didn’t wait to have sex until after I left high school. <BR/><BR/>I suppose, in the end, I’d rather a person’s “first time” with whatever sort of sexual whatever be within a loving relationship (and with protection), whether in high school, college, or later in life.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176945053751665788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163185512770774392006-11-10T11:05:00.000-08:002006-11-10T11:05:00.000-08:00It seems there's a big push to get laid at an earl...<B>It seems there's a big push to get laid at an early age (we see it in movies, TV: 'virgin=loser'</B><BR/><BR/>And that's adopted by the teens in high school and junior high who precede to force that idea on everyone else.Mesofortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187247135363619155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163142829537233542006-11-09T23:13:00.000-08:002006-11-09T23:13:00.000-08:00SNTC:I also believe kids should be allowed and sho...SNTC:<BR/><B>I also believe kids should be allowed and should be viewed as normal for teens to be able to fulfill their natural instincts.</B><BR/>Well, I adopt a very cautious approach. The pubescent years are chaotic enough. It seems there's a big push to get laid at an early age (we see it in movies, TV: 'virgin=loser'). & peer pressure is ridiculous. <BR/>A person is ready when they're ready. & sometimes they're not. More often, they're not.<BR/>I'm very much in favor of age of consent, & not crazy about a hedonistic approach.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163115387177377312006-11-09T15:36:00.000-08:002006-11-09T15:36:00.000-08:00Aviaa and KaI couldnt agree more! You both make ex...Aviaa and Ka<BR/><BR/>I couldnt agree more! You both make excelent points.<BR/><BR/>Especially when it comes to the sexual opression of teens. I also believe kids should be allowed and should be viewed as normal for teens to be able to fulfill their natural instincts. We have no right to deny them a completely normal experience amunst themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163113822856364922006-11-09T15:10:00.000-08:002006-11-09T15:10:00.000-08:00pedophilia is loosely tossed around, it is an attr...pedophilia is loosely tossed around, it is an attraction to children not child molestation. Anyone can have their own sexual orientation, but that doesn't mean they're going to hurt anyone by liking kids and not doing anything with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1163103581289834122006-11-09T12:19:00.000-08:002006-11-09T12:19:00.000-08:00Excellent post all around. I also find it terribl...Excellent post all around. I also find it terribly frustrating that homosexuality is so frequently unfairly linked to everything from pedophilia to bestiality. <BR/><BR/>I did want to note though that the term pedophilia is often thrown around loosely. According to the DSM-IV, <A HREF="http://www.psychiatryonline.com/content.aspx?aID=10307&searchStr=pedophilia" REL="nofollow">pedophilia is the attraction of an adult to a prepubescent child</A>. I think the Foley scandal and others that are often label as pedophilia are not actually such... though they are indeed gross misuses of power and shouldn't be legally permitted. I think age of consent laws are good, as they protect minors (prepubescent or otherwise) from emotionally dangerous sexual relationships adults. However, I also favor the "Romeo and Juliet" laws of some states that make exceptions for minors (in the 13-17 year old range) that are sexually experimenting with others that are within their age range Unfortunately, most don't (or at least, didn't, last time I looked) include homosexual minors experimenting with one another. That's discrimination.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176945053751665788noreply@blogger.com