tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post115619745163050756..comments2023-07-08T06:13:19.344-07:00Comments on biblioblography: CRY RACIST!Krystalline Apostatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156520360873606722006-08-25T08:39:00.000-07:002006-08-25T08:39:00.000-07:00I finally got a chance to read over what the TV se...I finally got a chance to read over what the TV series is all about. I'm appalled that christians will go to any means, including flat out lies to spin doctoring to prove their hateful religion is better than reality. They make me sick! This just makes me dislike christians even more including liberals cuz they leave the door cracked for the other psychos to spew their lies all ove the airwaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156284356972815142006-08-22T15:05:00.000-07:002006-08-22T15:05:00.000-07:00Are you going to let people tell you morals are su...<B>Are you going to let people tell you morals are subjective even though you <I>intuitively feel</I> that some things just are plain wrong and vice versa? </B><BR/><BR/>For someone that claims to be logical, you sure are illogical goose. 'Intuitively feel' is an appeal to emotion. I smell logical fallacy.Mesofortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187247135363619155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156281883831681792006-08-22T14:24:00.000-07:002006-08-22T14:24:00.000-07:00aviaa:(nods) Michael Shermer has book I really enj...aviaa:<BR/><B>(nods) Michael Shermer has book I really enjoyed on this topic, The Science of Good and Evil.</B><BR/>I'll have to check that out. Thanks.<BR/>This is 1 of Goose's pet peeves: he's convinced we need an authoritarian figure in order to keep us in line. He usually skips over the vast amount of forensic evidence that has accumulated over the last CE or so, & cuts straight to the 'morality' issue.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156278115423938222006-08-22T13:21:00.000-07:002006-08-22T13:21:00.000-07:00RA,Oh please. Morals are a result of evolution.(no...RA,<BR/><BR/><B>Oh please. Morals are a result of evolution.</B><BR/><BR/>(nods) Michael Shermer has book I really enjoyed on this topic, <B>The Science of Good and Evil</B>.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176945053751665788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156269291547551132006-08-22T10:54:00.000-07:002006-08-22T10:54:00.000-07:00Are you going to let people tell you morals are su...<B>Are you going to let people tell you morals are subjective even though you intuitively feel that some things just are plain wrong and vice versa? </B><BR/><BR/>I'm not letting anyone tell me that. I look at the reality that is presented to me and decide for myself that subjective morality is the most likely case. <BR/><BR/>I don't see an objective morality because people can strongly disagree on morals. Even the big ones (murder, rape, etc), people can disagree on. I bet there are some people in this world that think its ok to murder and rape all they want. <BR/><BR/>Also, there are times where the morality of certain actions are ambiguous. For example, I would lie to save 1000 people or perhaps to spare someone's feelings. These are rare circumstances, but they demonstrate to me that there isn't some constant, unflinching set of moral rules that I'm required to follow. <BR/><BR/><I>Its all situational, baby</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156264567216033762006-08-22T09:36:00.000-07:002006-08-22T09:36:00.000-07:00Goose:The question whether Darwin was racist or no...Goose:<BR/><B>The question whether Darwin was racist or not is not the big issue.</B><BR/>1 of those rare moments where we agree.<BR/><B>More important is that he reduces men to mere animals.</B><BR/>Hey, at least we're the highest form of animal. That's something, ain't it?;)<BR/><B>Nature is amoral. Theories like the ones of Darwin does in fact undermine all morals.</B><BR/>Oh please. Morals are a result of evolution.<BR/><B>RA, you have agreed to this yourself. If naturalism is true, morals become a convention.</B><BR/>You sure love that slippery slope, dontcha? Newsflash: everything we DO is a convention.<BR/>So are you attending the Morals Convention this year? ;)Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156261947704392022006-08-22T08:52:00.000-07:002006-08-22T08:52:00.000-07:00LokiHi, no i am not frightened by neathens;) I wou...Loki<BR/><BR/>Hi, no i am not frightened by neathens;) I would have problems at work and in the family were it so...<BR/><BR/>you said;<BR/><BR/>"If the facts points to subjective morality and humans being a animals, then so be it."<BR/><BR/>Are you going to let people tell you morals are subjective even though you intuitively feel that some things just are plain wrong and vice versa?Toffehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05056150137595422127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156259960558872162006-08-22T08:19:00.000-07:002006-08-22T08:19:00.000-07:00Why is it that theists are so uncomfortable with t...Why is it that theists are so uncomfortable with the fact that we ARE mammals?<BR/><BR/>Terms: "men" "mere" animals: patriarchy, entitlement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156257417886508922006-08-22T07:36:00.000-07:002006-08-22T07:36:00.000-07:00Goose, hi again, good to see you're not frightened...Goose, hi again, good to see you're not frightened by heathens.<BR/><B>More important is that he reduces men to mere animals.<BR/></B><BR/>Men aren't animals? We have <A HREF="http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/apes.html" REL="nofollow">97.5%</A> DNA the same as chimpanzees. (From a statistical perspective, 97.5% is ridiculously high.) If it weren't for a bigger brain and a voice box we'd be virtually the same as chimpanzees. <BR/><B>Nature is amoral. Theories like the ones of Darwin does in fact undermine all morals.</B><BR/>Truth is what I'm concerned with here. If the facts points to subjective morality and humans being a animals, then so be it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156244655518047432006-08-22T04:04:00.000-07:002006-08-22T04:04:00.000-07:00The question whether Darwin was racist or not is n...The question whether Darwin was racist or not is not the big issue.<BR/><BR/>More important is that he reduces men to mere animals.<BR/><BR/>Nature is amoral. Theories like the ones of Darwin does in fact undermine all morals.<BR/><BR/>RA, you have agreed to this yourself. If naturalism is true, morals become a convention.Toffehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05056150137595422127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156220163637815402006-08-21T21:16:00.000-07:002006-08-21T21:16:00.000-07:00MF:The person wrote that as a side-note as you DNA...MF:<BR/><B>The person wrote that as a side-note as you DNAunion and others were talking about Deuteronomy (sp?)</B><BR/>Oh, okay, got my threads crossed.;)<BR/><BR/>jerret:<BR/>Hey, I'll give it a look see, my friend.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156218951658997102006-08-21T20:55:00.000-07:002006-08-21T20:55:00.000-07:00Extremely nice post RA. I just made a post that I ...Extremely nice post RA. I just made a post that I really like, if you'd like to check it out. I want the type of discussions there that you have here ^^.Jerrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04794677872104973657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156218123206417492006-08-21T20:42:00.000-07:002006-08-21T20:42:00.000-07:00Ummm...is this the right thread? You've got me con...<B>Ummm...is this the right thread? You've got me confused here.</B><BR/><BR/>The person wrote that as a side-note as you DNAunion and others were talking about Deuteronomy (sp?)Mesofortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187247135363619155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156216874461972842006-08-21T20:21:00.000-07:002006-08-21T20:21:00.000-07:00MF:I was reading down the thing when I saw that. A...MF:<BR/><B><BR/>I was reading down the thing when I saw that. Amazing, I've been doing some research into archaeology recently, and it doesn't support the OT writings happening before the 7th Century Before the Common Era. What's almost ironic though is that the person writing the book is named 'Israel.'</B><BR/>Ummm...is this the right thread? You've got me confused here.<BR/><B>I think the argument broke down when you all started joking around. After that, this 'Question' person really stopped listening.</B><BR/>Nah. He made his mind up looonnng before he dropped in. He was dropping innuendoes about this crap before he finally tried to 'blindside' us w/this 'startling' revelation.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-1156216576345449132006-08-21T20:16:00.000-07:002006-08-21T20:16:00.000-07:00There is no Bliblical or archaeological evidence t...<B>There is no Bliblical or archaeological evidence that this punishment was ever carried out. </B><BR/><BR/>I was reading down the thing when I saw that. Amazing, I've been doing some research into archaeology recently, and it doesn't support the OT writings happening before the 7th Century Before the Common Era. What's almost ironic though is that the person writing the book is named 'Israel.'<BR/><BR/>And you wrote this-<BR/><BR/><B>You do realize remy's kidding?<BR/>All we have are decoder rings & secret handshakes.<BR/>Can't seem to agree on snazzier accessories. ;)</B><BR/><BR/>I have a jet pack personally. ^_~<BR/><BR/>I think the argument broke down when you all started joking around. After that, this 'Question' person really stopped listening.Mesofortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187247135363619155noreply@blogger.com