tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post1012253609799950823..comments2023-07-08T06:13:19.344-07:00Comments on biblioblography: Pity The Poor Palestinians...Why, Exactly?Krystalline Apostatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-9921758517113373032007-12-20T05:57:00.000-08:002007-12-20T05:57:00.000-08:00Yeesh, anonymous - obviously you didn't read the p...Yeesh, anonymous - obviously you didn't read the post. <BR/>Here, some qualifying statements, since your reading comprehension is so fucking limited:<BR/><B> (To give credit where it's due, there are Pali's who are actively working to change this.)</B><BR/>And:<BR/><B>We have a group here (mostly Arab Muslims, not restricted to Palestine) that</B><BR/>And:<BR/><B>Of course, nothing is quite monochromatic, as this link shows there are varying degrees of Sharia law in different countries.</B><BR/>And:<BR/><B>Honor killings are a barbaric, archaic holdover from earlier traditions. Note also, that the Palestinian Authority still doesn't prosecute, as this is a holdover from when the Jordanians ruled the Gaza Strip, the last vestige of which was in 1988, via a law that is nearly 50 years old.</B> <BR/>And if this were ANY OTHER COUNTRY, you'd be demanding some feet being held to the fire.<BR/><BR/>And your statement:<BR/><B><BR/>You then go on to point out the fact that honor killings is a problem within Palestinian society, but use this as an excuse to justify demonizing an entire people and supporting the Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine</B><BR/>Is a load of shit. Typical empty rhetoric. There <I>is no</I> 'ethnic cleansing' going on. Of course, don't let the facts get in your way, buckaroo. <BR/><B>I could go on and on of all the fallacies you have exhibited.</B><BR/>But the only 'shot' you fire is the race card. <BR/>Evidence of the Texas sharp shooter fallacy.<BR/>I don't believe in double standards. <BR/>Sadly, you do.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-26043979897580539932007-11-27T22:42:00.000-08:002007-11-27T22:42:00.000-08:00But abortion is not goddam genocide. Kapiche??So, ...<B>But abortion is not goddam genocide. Kapiche??</B><BR/>So, it's the <B>wording</B> that bothers you?<BR/>Yeah, you should become a lawyer, all right. Big on histrionics & pedantry, short on morals & logic.<BR/><B>This goes a long way back before Bush. USA oversaw and funded the overthrow of the democratic leadership in Iran because the President nationalized the oil companies. This was in the fucking 1950's. But they won't tell you that on fox and cnn and msnbc :-)</B><BR/>Mossedegh. Yeah, I'm quite familiar w/it. <BR/>I'm always the 1st to cop to my country's failings.<BR/>But in this country, women aren't killed for 'honor', children don't get fucking bombs strapped to them, fetuses aren't aborted based on gender. <BR/>We got our warts, alrighty. <BR/>& maybe we got where we are via ill-gotten gains. I've read 'Lies My Teacher Told Me' - it's enough to make an American gag.<BR/>But your little comic book world is ridiculous. Devoid of the greys the world consists of, across boundaries. Draped in monochromia, an insistence that there just HAS to be justice, dammit!<BR/>There will be, some day. But it will come at the hands of Man, not some divine hand: the world marches on, & things improve, too slowly for the likes of you & I. <BR/><B>you know, for all your god bashing, I think there's a latent bible thumping, abortion clinic burning, Southern Baptist evangelist fundamentalist in you :-)</B><BR/>Of course there is. That's why I understand the gawd-beggars so well.<BR/>I parlez-vous the freakshow.<BR/><B>The sooner you get in touch with your real self the better.</B><BR/>WYSIWYG, baby.<BR/><B>tata, God bless you.</B><BR/>Later, Borat. It's been fun, & it's been real, but it hasn't been REAL fun, if ye ken me drift.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-7247726988063409182007-11-26T23:42:00.000-08:002007-11-26T23:42:00.000-08:00"So, you fancy yourself a bit of a lawyer. Tell me..."So, you fancy yourself a bit of a lawyer. Tell me: what good is a court deterrent, if the court is powerless? I notice the latest citation is what? 37 years old?<BR/>They probably all fall under Chapter VI."<BR/><BR/>There's no deterrent. Therefore Israel gets away scot free. Your point? Yes, they are under the pacific settlement chapter. Oh, by the way, there's the recent ICJ judgment on the illegality of the wall that Israel continues to build. <BR/><BR/><BR/>"Actually, yes. You think the Palis will accede to 1?"<BR/><BR/>They're demanding it fucktard. <BR/><BR/>"Ummm…yes, AAMOF. So you’re splitting hairs? It’s not genocide if the millions are slaughtered by their own race? Are you smoking crack?"<BR/><BR/>Look, I don;t know what the fuck you've been on, blind American red necked patriotism probably, but genocide is genocide only if there's an intention to eliminate a identified group. Random killings even in the millions would be crimes against humanity. International law recognizes something additionally repulsive about wanting to exterminate an entire race. ie- the attempted extermination of the Indians by the whiteys in America.<BR/><BR/>"Stay off the glass pipe, dude. Pleading nuance is…just mind-boggling. A spade’s a goddam shovel."<BR/><BR/>But abortion is not goddam genocide. Kapiche??<BR/><BR/>"Hey, there’s plenty more of that shit. Seems your ‘utopian’ societies ain’t quite the charmers you paint them out to be. Pretty much on the same level as your hated enemy, the ole USA."<BR/><BR/>Nothing utopian dude. China and India are as fucked up as a lot of other countries. America though is especially fucked up way beyond China and India. <BR/><BR/>"This shit doesn’t have boundaries: <BR/>"<BR/><BR/>International peace is better preserved when you respect the boundaries between states. China and India do respect those boundaries, dirty Uncle Sam does not.<BR/><BR/>"I’m getting more than a little fucking sick of this smarmy ‘you’re just brainwashed!’ crap. My OPINIONS are NOT dictated to me via TV. I don’t live in some fucking ORWELLIAN dream, fucktard. My POV is (more often than not) based on relevant facts & analysis, not some subliminal black ‘n white comic book horseshit, regardless of what you’ve heard about Americans."<BR/><BR/>Ooh...someone's a little pissed off/ hahaha<BR/><BR/>"We should’ve just butted the fuck out. But as you may’ve gleaned, that dry drunk in D.C doesn’t listen to anyone. I for 1 would have him impeached for dishonesty, war crimes, the whole shebang."<BR/><BR/>This goes a long way back before Bush. USA oversaw and funded the overthrow of the democratic leadership in Iran because the President nationalized the oil companies. This was in the fucking 1950's. But they won't tell you that on fox and cnn and msnbc :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-73633707646718041882007-11-26T22:32:00.000-08:002007-11-26T22:32:00.000-08:00Just a few Security Council Resolutions Israel is ...<B>Just a few Security Council Resolutions Israel is in violation of: <BR/>…….No need to prove in a Court of Law. SC Resolutions ARE binding instruments of international law. </B><BR/>So, you fancy yourself a bit of a lawyer. Tell me: what good is a court deterrent, if the court is powerless? I notice the latest citation is what? 37 years old? <BR/>They probably all fall under Chapter VI.<BR/><B>Of course it's complicated, but some of the atrocities are fairly easy to identify. I believe in a two state solution with sharing of Jerusalem and Israeli pull out from the West Bank. Do you? </B><BR/>Actually, yes. You think the Palis will accede to 1?<BR/><B>How daft is it possible to be. Genocide means the targetted extermination of an identified group. Who did Mao try to exterminate? The Chinese?? Don't be a daft wanker... there, two other words I also learned..hahaha</B><BR/>Ummm…yes, AAMOF. So you’re splitting hairs? It’s not genocide if the millions are slaughtered by their own race? Are you smoking crack?<BR/><B>It may be fucked up, but it ain't genocide and the government is trying to prevent it. Clutching for straws aren't you. </B><BR/>Stay off the glass pipe, dude. Pleading <I>nuance</I> is…just mind-boggling. A spade’s a goddam shovel. <BR/><B>There's a huge difference between genocide and a hate crime. Genocide means the intended extermination of a race or group, i.e- the intended extermination of the Indians. Indians and Pakistanis fought wars but hardy tried to exterminate each other. Plus there's no indication in your "genocide+india=abortion" links that the Indian government is responsible for "genocidal abortions" (sounds nice no wanker, nice ring to it!!) and hate crimes by citizens, that it later went on to punish. </B><BR/>Hey, there’s plenty more of that shit. Seems your ‘utopian’ societies ain’t quite the charmers you paint them out to be. Pretty much on the same level as your hated enemy, the ole USA.<BR/><B>Plus, all these atrocities were committed within India and China whereas the US is much more dangerous because its terrorism is international. India and China are not angels but so far no "unnecessary military intervention, no nuclear bombing, no genocide, and no history of mass slavery through human trafficking in the last few hundred years." </B><BR/>This shit doesn’t have boundaries: nice try, no cigar. No, you lose. Finis. <BR/><B>I'm sorry to burst your bubble and what you've learned through your patriotic news channels, but US record really isn't pretty. </B><BR/>I’m getting more than a little fucking sick of this smarmy ‘you’re just brainwashed!’ crap. My OPINIONS are NOT dictated to me via TV. I don’t live in some fucking ORWELLIAN dream, fucktard. My POV is (more often than not) based on relevant facts & analysis, not some subliminal black ‘n white comic book horseshit, regardless of what you’ve heard about Americans. <BR/>No, it ain’t pretty. We should’ve just butted the fuck out. But as you may’ve gleaned, that dry drunk in D.C doesn’t listen to anyone. I for 1 would have him impeached for dishonesty, war crimes, the whole shebang.<BR/>I’d lend you a quarter to buy a clue, but you’d just go purchase some more of your substance of choice. <BR/>Now, sod off, & go pray to your zombie god.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-70179868010945380742007-11-26T17:22:00.000-08:002007-11-26T17:22:00.000-08:00Just a few Security Council Resolutions Israel is ...Just a few Security Council Resolutions Israel is in violation of:<BR/><BR/>Resolution 252 (1968) Israel<BR/>Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.<BR/><BR/>262 (1968) Israel<BR/>Calls upon Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.<BR/><BR/>267 (1969) Israel<BR/>Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.<BR/><BR/>271 (1969) Israel<BR/>Reiterates calls to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem and calls on Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers.<BR/><BR/>298 (1971) Israel<BR/>Reiterates demand that Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.<BR/><BR/>No need to prove in a Court of Law. SC Resolutions ARE binding instruments of international law.<BR/><BR/>Do your reading, silly fucker :-)<BR/><BR/>"No. You forget, it’s the Palistineans who are trying that, w/their own children. Nor are the Palistineans being enslaved, per se. Israel needs some reform, but you paint them as these vicious brutes who wandered in, & took everything in sight. Again, not that simple."<BR/><BR/>Of course it's complicated, but some of the atrocities are fairly easy to identify. I believe in a two state solution with sharing of Jerusalem and Israeli pull out from the West Bank. Do you?<BR/><BR/>"You’re…kidding, right? Cultural Revolution ring a bell? Millions died?"<BR/><BR/>How daft is it possible to be. Genocide means the targetted extermination of an identified group. Who did Mao try to exterminate? The Chinese?? Don't be a daft wanker... there, two other words I also learned..hahaha<BR/><BR/>"Hey, if you’re aborting fetuses based on gender, then it’s pretty fucked up. Stupid, too. China does this shit as well."<BR/><BR/>It may be fucked up, but it ain't genocide and the government is trying to prevent it. Clutching for straws aren't you.<BR/><BR/>It gets even worse when you mention the Gujarat bakery case, because that was a civilian riot where the Indian government intervened and punished the Hindus involved in the riot. Hardly genocide. <BR/><BR/>There's a huge difference between genocide and a hate crime. Genocide means the intended extermination of a race or group, i.e- the intended extermination of the Indians. Indians and Pakistanis fought wars but hardy tried to exterminate each other. Plus there's no indication in your "genocide+india=abortion" links that the Indian government is responsible for "genocidal abortions" (sounds nice no wanker, nice ring to it!!) and hate crimes by citizens, that it later went on to punish. <BR/><BR/>Plus, all these atrocities were committed within India and China whereas the US is much more dangerous because its terrorism is international. India and China are not angels but so far no "unnecessary military intervention, no nuclear bombing, no genocide, and no history of mass slavery through human trafficking in the last few hundred years."<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry to burst your bubble and what you've learned through your patriotic news channels, but US record really isn't pretty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-15770414209534954542007-11-26T14:32:00.000-08:002007-11-26T14:32:00.000-08:00Yes, I think he is saying that until there is demo...<B>Yes, I think he is saying that until there is democracy and the Palestinians given a right to vote, the Israeli regime is illegitimate. What's the issue? </B><BR/>I’d suggest you dig just a little deeper into the context.<BR/><B>Stay out of the ME, Iran gets the bomb. So does Libya, Syria and a future Palestine. MAD all the way. Sounds good to me. </B><BR/>I think 1 bomb is 1 too many.<BR/><B>Of course. I have imbibed the intellectual traditions of many cultures. For a whitey who's into tai-chi, I would think you know better than to peddle this ridiculous idea that thought can be homogeneous. Hahaha... </B><BR/>Can’t get under your skin anymore? Oh well…<BR/><B>WTF?? What does pro-this and pro-that mean. Try to have opinions that are slightly more sophisticated than being explicable by the simple prefix of a monosyllabic word in front of the object. Silly fucker, haha</B><BR/>Do you recognize the right of Israel to exist? There, I’ve spelled it out for you.<BR/>Do try to not twist it outta true, like you usually do.<BR/><B>Yes, there's been some suppression of democracy in China, But no unnecessary military intervention, no nuclear bombing, no genocide, and no history of mass slavery through human trafficking in the last few hundred years. Much better record than the US. </B><BR/><A HREF="http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE2.HTM" REL="nofollow">Genocide in China</A>.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.humantrafficking.org/updates/683" REL="nofollow">Slave trafficking in China</A><BR/><B>As for India, only threatening a nuke and not actually using it makes them so much more responsible than the US. Besides, who told you these stories about India and Pakistan wanting to nuke each other. They're both nuclear armed, MAD works and they're well on their way to having a lasting peace. </B><BR/><A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1732430.stm" REL="nofollow">Nuclear arms race</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=393896&in_page_id=1770" REL="nofollow">Indian genocide</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html" REL="nofollow">More cases of Indian genocide</A><BR/>You seem ill-informed about your side of the ocean. I’d advise you get outta that bubble you live in some time soon.<BR/><B>Sorry dude, time's up on the yanks. Cede honorably or risk perpetual war grinding you into the dust while the Hispanics take over your country. It's not yours to begin with so not like that's a bad thing. The choice is yours. </B><BR/>Oh well…nothing’s eternal. & I mean that: NOTHING.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-3014130391995925722007-11-26T08:14:00.000-08:002007-11-26T08:14:00.000-08:00“Ahmadinejad also claimed in the speech that the i...“Ahmadinejad also claimed in the speech that the issue with Palestine would be over "the day that all refugees return to their homes [and] a democratic government elected by the people comes to power",[3] and denounced attempts to normalise relations with Israel, condemning all Muslim leaders who accept the existence of Israel as "acknowledging a surrender and defeat of the Islamic world."<BR/><BR/>Yes, I think he is saying that until there is democracy and the Palestinians given a right to vote, the Israeli regime is illegitimate. What's the issue?<BR/><BR/>"I meant on MAD."<BR/><BR/>Stay out of the ME, Iran gets the bomb. So does Libya, Syria and a future Palestine. MAD all the way. Sounds good to me. <BR/><BR/>"Of course, you realize that Western European thought is a big influence on you?"<BR/><BR/>Of course. I have imbibed the intellectual traditions of many cultures. For a whitey who's into tai-chi, I would think you know better than to peddle this ridiculous idea that thought can be homogeneous. Hahaha...<BR/><BR/>"So you’re anti-USA, but pro-Israel?"<BR/><BR/>WTF?? What does pro-this and pro-that mean. Try to have opinions that are slightly more sophisticated than being explicable by the simple prefix of a monosyllabic word in front of the object. Silly fucker, haha<BR/><BR/>"Really? China’s got a horrible human rights record, & India’s been right on the verge of nuking Pakistan for some time now."<BR/><BR/>Yes, there's been some suppression of democracy in China, But no unnecessary military intervention, no nuclear bombing, no genocide, and no history of mass slavery through human trafficking in the last few hundred years. Much better record than the US.<BR/><BR/>As for India, only threatening a nuke and not actually using it makes them so much more responsible than the US. Besides, who told you these stories about India and Pakistan wanting to nuke each other. They're both nuclear armed, MAD works and they're well on their way to having a lasting peace.<BR/><BR/>Sorry dude, time's up on the yanks. Cede honorably or risk perpetual war grinding you into the dust while the Hispanics take over your country. It's not yours to begin with so not like that's a bad thing. The choice is yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-305533650224117542007-11-26T06:04:00.000-08:002007-11-26T06:04:00.000-08:00Sounds like he's talking about regime change. This...<B>Sounds like he's talking about regime change. This is off your link. Thanks for the support :-) </B><BR/>It ALSO reads:<BR/>“Ahmadinejad also claimed in the speech that the issue with Palestine would be over "the day that all refugees return to their homes [and] a democratic government elected by the people comes to power",[3] and denounced attempts to normalise relations with Israel, condemning all Muslim leaders who accept the existence of Israel as "acknowledging a surrender and defeat of the Islamic world."<BR/><B>I've given you my recommendations and you seem to agree. </B><BR/>I meant on MAD.<BR/><B>I've noting against the white man just like you have nothing against Arabs in general right? </B> <BR/>The race card…again. Sigh. No, I don’t.<BR/><B>I haven't adopted the white man's language. Its only one of the many languages I've learned. It's a tool, helps you communicate. What's your point? You must be a complete fuckup if you think Christianity is a white man's religion. It's a Middle Eastern religion if you want to pin it down to an area. </B><BR/>Hehehehe. Knew that’d get a rise outta ya. Of course, you realize that Western European thought is a big influence on you? <BR/><B>Wrong number fucktard. I'm making a secular argument too. The world will be a better and safer place if the USA kept themselves out of the business of other folks. This Jerry Falwell rubbish is a niggling crab up your arse isn't it/ Not my fucking problem. </B><BR/>Hehehehe. So you’re anti-USA, but pro-Israel? You think your invisible sky-daddy’s going to pop in, & level the playing field? Why hasn’t s/he/it done so already?<BR/><B>Aren't you happy that America is weaker now and is not able to do the same shit it did at the beginning of the war. Call it gloating if you like. It's just a value judgment. India and China have shown themselves to be much more responsible global leaders and it's a good thing they're emerging as superpowers. </B><BR/>Really? China’s got a horrible human rights record, & India’s been right on the verge of nuking Pakistan for some time now. NTM that the latter’s been prone to religious violence for decades.<BR/>Of course, for you, anything’s better than the white man, & ANYTHING’S better than the USA.<BR/>‘Better the devil you know’, as they say in your circles, isn’t it?<BR/>No worries. That butplug in the big house will be bankrupting this country soon enough. So it’s a moot point.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-18660897336121385742007-11-26T00:04:00.000-08:002007-11-26T00:04:00.000-08:00".........According to Juan Cole, a University of ...".........According to Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as:The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)....)<BR/><BR/>Sounds like he's talking about regime change. This is off your link. Thanks for the support :-)<BR/><BR/>If you read what you inked here, it's clear there's some ambiguity about the meaning of his statement. But Iran, which is controlled by the clerics have always said they are in favor of a referendum to determine the leadership of the Israelis and the Palestinians. No talk of genocide there. <BR/><BR/>"Any recommendations? I’m not to happy about funding it, but crying, spilled milk, etc."<BR/><BR/>I've given you my recommendations and you seem to agree. <BR/><BR/>"I find it baffling: you obviously loathe the white man (especially Americans) – yet you’ve adopted the language, and yes, even the white man’s religion."<BR/><BR/>I've noting against the white man just like you have nothing against Arabs in general right? I haven't adopted the white man's language. Its only one of the many languages I've learned. It's a tool, helps you communicate. What's your point? You must be a complete fuckup if you think Christianity is a white man's religion. It's a Middle Eastern religion if you want to pin it down to an area. Christianity was brought to the area of India where I'm descended from a long time before the colonists arrived.<BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Orthodox_Church#Church_in_India<BR/><BR/>"More bafflement still: I support Israel for secular reasons, but that whole region’s intricately woven into your entire epistemology, isn’t it? All those ½ assed prophecies (none of which came true), your whole belief system, are reliant on Israel. Revelation, Daniel, all that hogwash. So, what’s your rationale? (This should be fun!) Lemmee guess: “This didn’t go the way I was told, so let’s re-explain it someway so IT DOES MAKE SENSE! Yippee, praise Jay-suss!”)<BR/>You religious folks are just such a writhing mass of contradictions, ya know?"<BR/><BR/>Wrong number fucktard. I'm making a secular argument too. The world will be a better and safer place if the USA kept themselves out of the business of other folks. This Jerry Falwell rubbish is a niggling crab up your arse isn't it/ Not my fucking problem.<BR/><BR/>"You may as well gloat – you’re pretty much hollering after all the dust has settled."<BR/><BR/>Aren't you happy that America is weaker now and is not able to do the same shit it did at the beginning of the war. Call it gloating if you like. It's just a value judgment. India and China have shown themselves to be much more responsible global leaders and it's a good thing they're emerging as superpowers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-20732748300390280692007-11-25T23:00:00.000-08:002007-11-25T23:00:00.000-08:00niran:I thought this post was about the Arab Pales...niran:<BR/><B>I thought this post was about the Arab Palestinians. Now its about Shiite Iran??? Typical American, lump all the middle Easterners into one and hate them all.</B><BR/>Oh, you’re fucking kidding me, right? I keep forgetting how you like to change directions & accuse your opponent of doing it. We were talking about Israel. It’s hard to subtract the surrounding landscape from the equation, is it not?<BR/><B> Btw, care to post a link with a direct quote of Ahmadinejad threatening to wipe Israel off the map. Please link a direct quote and not some fox news interpretation of what he said. Don't believe everything your government and news barons tell you. A'nejad never threatened to push Israel into the sea or anything of the sort. He was talking about regime change in Israel.</B><BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel" REL="nofollow">Here's</A> a good start. I’ve heard all that crap about, “Oh, that’s not what he REALLY said!” Fox is YOUR news channel, it appears: I don’t watch that shit.<BR/><B>Yes, Israel can do anything it want include launch a devastating war on Lebanon whenever it wants and whomp anyone in the ME with East. Your tax dollars have armed them to the teeth and they feel they can do anything now. No one is going to try and destroy Israel. Israel has submarine nuclear attack capabilities that enable it to destroy any country in the ME even if it's been nuked. Now, go and do your reading on Mutually Assured Destruction. </B><BR/>Any recommendations? I’m not to happy about funding it, but crying, spilled milk, etc. <BR/><B>Cool. We're on the same page. Get the fuck out of there and take your filthy US money out of the ME. I'm glad you agree. </B><BR/>Real bug up your ass, isn’t there?<BR/><B>What cock. Is that what racist Bill O reilly told you on fox? </B><BR/>I don’t know where you get your info, but I (as well as many other people) detest Faux noise, & Bill O’Lielly is on my list as a piece of shit.<BR/>But then, you’re just trying to goad me, aintcha?<BR/><B>The Sumerian, Elamite, Canaanite and ancient Egyptian civilizations all predate Greek civilisation by a fair bit. </B><BR/><A HREF="http://www.answers.com/Arab" REL="nofollow">Here's</A> a breakdown of the definition of the word ‘Arab’. I said Jewish/Arab civilization: those are all people of Semitic blood.<BR/>“The derivation of the term Arab is unclear, and the meaning of the word has <B>changed several times through history</B>. Some Arab scholars have equated Joktan (Gen. 10.25) with the ancient Arab patriarch Qahtan whose tribe is thought to have originated in S Arabia. The Assyrian inscriptions (9th cent. B.C.) referred to nomadic peoples inhabiting the far north of the Arabian Peninsula; the sedentary population in the south of the peninsula was not called Arab. In classical times the term was extended to the whole of the Arabian Peninsula and to all the desert areas of the Middle East, and in the Middle Ages the Arabs came to be called Saracens.”<BR/>But I’ll let that go for now.<BR/><B>And I'm railing on about how ass-backwards Americans are. </B><BR/>I find it baffling: you obviously loathe the white man (especially Americans) – yet you’ve adopted the language, and yes, even the white man’s religion.<BR/><B>No point, Any excuse for staying there and stealing other people's oil. You agree that you shouldn't interfere, yet here you suggest you need to keep supporting Israel.</B><BR/>More bafflement still: I support Israel for secular reasons, but that whole region’s intricately woven into your entire epistemology, isn’t it? All those ½ assed prophecies (none of which came true), your whole belief system, are reliant on Israel. Revelation, Daniel, all that hogwash. So, what’s your rationale? (This should be fun!) Lemmee guess: “This didn’t go the way I was told, so let’s re-explain it someway so IT DOES MAKE SENSE! Yippee, praise Jay-suss!”) <BR/>You religious folks are just such a writhing mass of contradictions, ya know?<BR/><B>The empire is crumbling slowly but surely and the world is watching with excitement. You're going to have to hightail it out of Iraq in humiliation for sure. You think that's going to make the Iraqi resistance want to attack the US in the US? Maybe, maybe not, but getting out of there will be the first move to getting it right. </B><BR/>You may as well gloat – you’re pretty much hollering after all the dust has settled. Again, I was <I>against</I> it – I called the WH (special line) & told them so. That dipshit up there doesn’t need to listen to his people – he never has. Stole 2 elections, & Iraq was just a re-election scam, as I’ve said before.<BR/>Yeah, America’s sure gumbied up the works – has been doing so, for decades.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-12317225194015232752007-11-25T18:42:00.000-08:002007-11-25T18:42:00.000-08:00"W/Iran threatening to go nuclear, & their intenti..."W/Iran threatening to go nuclear, & their intention to push Israel out into the sea? Hell, no. Israel’ll whomp them anyways."<BR/><BR/>I thought this post was about the Arab Palestinians. Now its about Shiite Iran??? Typical American, lump all the middle Easterners into one and hate them all. Btw, care to post a link with a direct quote of Ahmadinejad threatening to wipe Israel off the map. Please link a direct quote and not some fox news interpretation of what he said. Don't believe everything your government and news barons tell you. A'nejad never threatened to push Israel into the sea or anything of the sort. He was talking about regime change in Israel.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Israel can do anything it want include launch a devastating war on Lebanon whenever it wants and whomp anyone in the ME with East. Your tax dollars have armed them to the teeth and they feel they can do anything now. No one is going to try and destroy Israel. Israel has submarine nuclear attack capabilities that enable it to destroy any country in the ME even if it's been nuked. Now, go and do your reading on Mutually Assured Destruction.<BR/><BR/>"I’m kinda all for letting the bunch of them settling it amongst themselves."<BR/><BR/>Cool. We're on the same page. Get the fuck out of there and take your filthy US money out of the ME. I'm glad you agree. <BR/><BR/>"Ummm…technically incorrect, since Greek culture advanced prior to either Arab or Jewish culture. But I catch your drift."<BR/><BR/>What cock. Is that what racist Bill O reilly told you on fox? The Sumerian, Elamite, Canaanite and ancient Egyptian civilizations all predate Greek civilisation by a fair bit. <BR/><BR/>"The post is actually railing against how blind the Left can be. How they seem to latch onto the Pali cause w/o weighing the ramifications of that allegiance. & how ass-backwards the Pali’s REALLY are."<BR/><BR/>And I'm railing on about how ass-backwards Americans are. <BR/><BR/>"We hightail it outta there, sign of weakness. They eradicate Israel entirely. Then in a peaked frenzy, they start finishing what the Saracens started centuries ago."<BR/><BR/>No point, Any excuse for staying there and stealing other people's oil. You agree that you shouldn't interfere, yet here you suggest you need to keep supporting Israel.<BR/><BR/>The empire is crumbling slowly but surely and the world is watching with excitement. You're going to have to hightail it out of Iraq in humiliation for sure. You think that's going to make the Iraqi resistance want to attack the US in the US? Maybe, maybe not, but getting out of there will be the first move to getting it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-19435391853796150902007-11-25T12:58:00.000-08:002007-11-25T12:58:00.000-08:00"It was the culmination of centuries of mistreatme..."It was the culmination of centuries of mistreatment at the hands of the Western world."<BR/><BR/>So why not create an Israel in the middle of Europe. Take away some land in Europe, because they're the ones who mistreated them right, and let the Jews live there. Or get them back to their original lands and let them lives as equals. The Palestinians are now stateless and have had their lands taken away by the Israelis in wars after the creation of Israel. Anyone with a passing understanding of the Palestinian issue knows that a two-state solution is the only real solution to the problem. Israel doesn't want that and won't talk to the democratic representatives of the Palestinians. I hope you read more on this without repeating some Zionist horse shit. <BR/><BR/>"Israel's their ancestral lands. Where would YOU have put them?"<BR/><BR/>Anywhere where they want to lives as equals and where they agree not to steal their neighbors' lands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-27352105142687093792007-11-25T12:51:00.000-08:002007-11-25T12:51:00.000-08:00KA: When you say you support Israel, I hope you do...KA: When you say you support Israel, I hope you don't mean you want your government to keep giving billions of dollars in arms aid to the Israeli government. Because that's what you guys are doing right now and that constitutes interference with the fate of the Palestinians. Support Israel all you want, but don't pump arms into a war that is essentially between peoples who have lived together from long before the Europeans discovered fire...know what I'm saying...You agree that the US needs to stop interfering, so fly the flag of Israeli liberal democracy(that is in continuing violation of a mountain of SC Resolutions and ICJ judgments) out of your window without supporting the IDF. That's cool. <BR/><BR/>Btw, as long as the US keeps propping up dictatorships in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Egypt, liberal democracies' chances in the ME are not very high. Also destabilizing countries by invading them and wanting to go after other countries as well really doesn't bode well for democracy.<BR/><BR/>"Ah...dude, re-read the post. I have no sympathy. They're on their own, till they clean house."<BR/><BR/>Yes, I did read it. They don't need and are not asking for your sympathy. They want you to stop interfering by giving Israel the deadly arms with which they are attacked. Kapiche??<BR/><BR/>"Actually, I spoke up about well in advance - read this. I've railed against that prick on numerous occasions, and advised folks on how to vote."<BR/><BR/>Reread my comments. I was talking about the pre war sanctions that Clinton pushed for. I hadn't even got to Bush's fucked up war. <BR/><BR/>"I agree w/Stardust, however: it's gone way, WAY past 'leave 'em alone, they'll leave us alone too."<BR/><BR/>I heard Ann Coulter say that too. Ever wonder why the Middle Eastern Muslims don't want to attack China or India? Don't be silly. You already agree you need to stop interfering, now get your dollars and your arms and get the fuck out of there without trying to provoke a third world war. Like I always say, No justice = No peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-40275289124931484812007-11-25T12:35:00.000-08:002007-11-25T12:35:00.000-08:00By 'prick', I mean the Commander-in-thief - defini...By 'prick', I mean the Commander-in-thief - definitely the worst president we've ever had.<BR/>Sanctimonious, braindead, fundie idiot. Adjectives fail me: I could go on for hours as to why W should be fired/impeached/run outta town on a rail.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-52348767041002002902007-11-25T12:24:00.000-08:002007-11-25T12:24:00.000-08:00niran - wow, you sure came outta hiding quick.How ...niran - wow, you sure came outta hiding quick.<BR/><B>How about writing about forcing your government to stop funding the Israeli military</B><BR/>I won't do that: I support Israel, as it happens to be the closest thing in the ME to a liberal democracy.<BR/><B>and worry yourself about getting your government to give reparations to the descendants of the Indians who your forefathers exterminated and the Blacks, who they enslaved.</B> <BR/>I've actually used those points b4, myself. How many of us yanks would accede our property to a Native American if they came by to reclaim it? Zero's my guess.<BR/><B>Let the Palestinians sort their own problems out. Palestinians don't need your sympathy.</B><BR/>Ah...dude, re-read the post. I <I>have no</I> sympathy. They're on their own, till they clean house.<BR/><B>They just need your country to stop interfering with them and get the fuck out of the Middle East.</B><BR/>I actually agree w/that.<BR/><B>The critique of honor killings sounds a little shallow when US led sanctions killed 250,000 Iraqi women and girls recently(500,000 civilians in all according to the UN) and you don't say a word about it.</B><BR/>Actually, I spoke up about well in advance - <A HREF="http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2006/03/were-going-in-anyways.html" REL="nofollow">read this</A>. I've <A HREF="http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2006/03/yes-it-was-about-oiland-number-of.html" REL="nofollow">railed against</A> <A HREF="http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2006/03/jaccuse.html" REL="nofollow">that prick</A> <A HREF="http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2006/10/my-country-tis-of-thee-sweet-land-of.html" REL="nofollow">on numerous</A> occasions, and <A HREF="http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2006/09/vote-out-rubber-stamp.html" REL="nofollow">advised</A> folks on how to vote.<BR/>But your paragraph insinuates that it's a matter of numbers, when it isn't. <BR/>I'm sorry some of your relatives got caught in that suicide bomber's collateral damage.<BR/><BR/>I agree w/Stardust, however: it's gone way, WAY past 'leave 'em alone, they'll leave us alone too.'Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20169168.post-57445310715946797102007-11-25T09:00:00.000-08:002007-11-25T09:00:00.000-08:00They just need your country to stop interfering wi...<I>They just need your country to stop interfering with them and get the fuck out of the Middle East.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>That would solve absolutely nothing. They won't be satisified because we who live in western nations are infidels...and it won't stop with just giving them their magical land back. <BR/><BR/>You have nothing to say about the honor killings of women? I am appalled how this simply gets blown off repeatedly. How about the hanging of homosexuals, about teaching their kids to suicide themselves while killing innocent victims along with themselves and all the other religious fucktardery?<BR/><BR/>The anti-Israel leftists continually overlook the atrocities, bringing up past atrocities that Americans and Israelis have done in the past as if that somehow justifies the human rights violations that are happening in TODAY's world.<BR/><BR/>I just don't understand westerners who support barbarism and dark-age mentality...while ironically living comfortably in an "evil" western society.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.com